Question about the body's ability to absorb the sebum
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Question about the body's ability to absorb the sebum
Hey everyone,
Just out of curiosity, say that the glands that are producing the sebum suddenly stop producing sebum, and so all that is left is the hard sebum found in SP.
How long would it take for the body to absorb the SP, back into the body, considering that no more sebum is being produced, and contributing to the already formed SP
thanks
Just out of curiosity, say that the glands that are producing the sebum suddenly stop producing sebum, and so all that is left is the hard sebum found in SP.
How long would it take for the body to absorb the SP, back into the body, considering that no more sebum is being produced, and contributing to the already formed SP
thanks
hoho- Posts: 89
Join date: 2009-10-22
Re: Question about the body's ability to absorb the sebum
I don't know but I know that if the sebum production stopped the spots wouldn't be visible. A doctor has told me that 
jimmiandersen- Posts: 192
Join date: 2010-01-24
Re: Question about the body's ability to absorb the sebum
People who get sebaceous cysts seem to be able to get rid of them without surgery in a pretty decent amount of time, and those things are filled with sometimes half a shot glass worth of sebum. As far as how long it would take has a lot to do with how equipped your body is to break down and transport wastes, but I think sebum could be transported away pretty easily.
Not the problem though, sebum doesnt harden (or doesnt harden rock solid, that is). Whats in these bumps isnt sebum, its keratin. Anyone who has manually removed one can tell you the stuff inside is mostly rubbery and hard, neither of which is something sebum can do.
My theory is that, for one reason or another (a complete overproduction of keratin that overwhelms the body's ability to transport it towards the surface of the skin, collagen cross linking causing fibrosis around the follicle body, psuedocysts in the area where the follicle and pilosebaceous duct meet), the keratin produced in the pilosebaceous duct is unable to move in its normal direction, causing it to back up into the gland and harden as though it were creating the outer layers of skin. If I were to bet money, I would say that theres a hyperproliferation of keratinocytes that causes a retention of keratin within the sebaceous gland.
In any case, it would become a matter of how well the body can absorb the broken down keratin once its broken down, if its broken down. Im pretty sure pieb brought this up a very long time ago, back when the shift in focus was moving towards keratin just as the forums died. It is pretty simple to come to the conclusion that the sebocytes and keratinocytes in the sebaceous gland are triggered by the same set of androgen receptors, considering isotretoin is known to deminish or completely end sp, so that which would lower sebum levels would theoretically slow keratin production, but fuck knows just how true that is.
I know it has been a while since Ive said it, and the old forum had links and pictures that I dont think Ive ever posted here, but keratin is the real culprit here, not sebum. I cant stress this enough. Even if sebum does make up some small part of the blockage in the gland, it is the keratin that keeps it there. Keep the keratin from forming too fast, or break it down as it is produced, and the sebum will flow as easily as it does anywhere else on the body.
Not the problem though, sebum doesnt harden (or doesnt harden rock solid, that is). Whats in these bumps isnt sebum, its keratin. Anyone who has manually removed one can tell you the stuff inside is mostly rubbery and hard, neither of which is something sebum can do.
My theory is that, for one reason or another (a complete overproduction of keratin that overwhelms the body's ability to transport it towards the surface of the skin, collagen cross linking causing fibrosis around the follicle body, psuedocysts in the area where the follicle and pilosebaceous duct meet), the keratin produced in the pilosebaceous duct is unable to move in its normal direction, causing it to back up into the gland and harden as though it were creating the outer layers of skin. If I were to bet money, I would say that theres a hyperproliferation of keratinocytes that causes a retention of keratin within the sebaceous gland.
In any case, it would become a matter of how well the body can absorb the broken down keratin once its broken down, if its broken down. Im pretty sure pieb brought this up a very long time ago, back when the shift in focus was moving towards keratin just as the forums died. It is pretty simple to come to the conclusion that the sebocytes and keratinocytes in the sebaceous gland are triggered by the same set of androgen receptors, considering isotretoin is known to deminish or completely end sp, so that which would lower sebum levels would theoretically slow keratin production, but fuck knows just how true that is.
I know it has been a while since Ive said it, and the old forum had links and pictures that I dont think Ive ever posted here, but keratin is the real culprit here, not sebum. I cant stress this enough. Even if sebum does make up some small part of the blockage in the gland, it is the keratin that keeps it there. Keep the keratin from forming too fast, or break it down as it is produced, and the sebum will flow as easily as it does anywhere else on the body.
late_thought- Posts: 369
Join date: 2009-05-17
Re: Question about the body's ability to absorb the sebum
Yeah sorry I do know that it is the keratin that is the problem, I just didn't write it properly.
What I should have said was.
How long would it take for the body to absorb the keratin, if no other oil production was occurring?
Basically about 2 weeks ago I said about how I have this product called Odaban used to stop sweating around the body. I have been using it for my armpits and it is very good. It basically blocks the glands and re-routes the sweat to the blood. One application can be effective up to a week, and I used it on my SP twice about two weeks ago.
I say this because the last few days my SP has seemed less prominent than before. I thought this was just a day thing, but they are still less prominent.
I highly doubt that if it did work, then my body could get rid of the keratin that quickly, but I guess the process of what the product does it logical enough to work.
So I have started to use it again, and I will monitor it for a few months.
What I should have said was.
How long would it take for the body to absorb the keratin, if no other oil production was occurring?
Basically about 2 weeks ago I said about how I have this product called Odaban used to stop sweating around the body. I have been using it for my armpits and it is very good. It basically blocks the glands and re-routes the sweat to the blood. One application can be effective up to a week, and I used it on my SP twice about two weeks ago.
I say this because the last few days my SP has seemed less prominent than before. I thought this was just a day thing, but they are still less prominent.
I highly doubt that if it did work, then my body could get rid of the keratin that quickly, but I guess the process of what the product does it logical enough to work.
So I have started to use it again, and I will monitor it for a few months.
hoho- Posts: 89
Join date: 2009-10-22
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